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My kids amaze me and question

March 5th, 2008 at 11:53 am

My 13 y.o came to me the other day, handed me $200.00, and asked me to put it in his car savings acct. I was in disbelief as he was saving for an Xbox 360. When asked why, he said he just changed his mind. WOW! So I took it and ran. Smile

He then went to his 11 y.o. sister and told her what he had done, so she had to "one up" him, and she gave me $200.00! $100.00 for her car acct, and $100.00 for her reg. savings acct. This money was mainly birthday money.

Okay, I was now 2 for 2. On to my 6 y.o. I asked him how much cash he had in his wallet. He counted it (very number savvy kid) and had $104.00. I asked him if he would put some into his savings. Immediately he said "half, $52.00." (I talked him up to $72.00) Smile

Some may ask, why do the kids have so much cash? They save. They each have savings accts with ING and are doing quite well. I don't make them deposit their cash, though I try to persuade (sp) them in the right direction.

Now the question...

I have a young friend that is trying to get her financial life in order. She is 22, a single mom, and has a $1000.00 emergency fund. Her 2007 tax refund was $5000.00! (You have got to be kidding!) Anyway, I was telling her she should be investing this money in a Roth IRA.

A little history...She grossed around $16,000 in 2007.

Standard deductions...$7850.00
Exemptions...$6800.00
Taxable income...$1793.00

Fed witholding...$1650.00
EIC...$2680
Add. child tax credit...$704.00


She has since gotten a new job with a better income. Now making about $25,000-$30,000 annually.

How does she figure how many deductions to claim w/o having to pay in at the end? She would prefer to have a small $100.00 tax cushion a mo.

If anyone needs more details, feel free to ask.

Another kicker... She now works for an ins. agency, and someone there is telling her to get whole life. ARGH!




7 Responses to “My kids amaze me and question”

  1. merch Says:
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    I would just get her on the Dave Ramsey plan. It general is a sound plan.

    1) 1,000 emergency fund
    2) Pay off all debt (except mortgage)
    3) Increase emergency fund to 3-6 months of expenses
    4) Save 15% for retirement
    5) Pay off mortgage
    6) Invest

    Even if she doesn't follow this plane, she should have an emergengy fund of 3-6 months before investing.

    just my 2 cents.

  2. princessperky Says:
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    How many is she claiming? If she just claimed last year the 'standard' one for self one for each kid, keep that and she will still prolly get something back claiming the same. We figured our deductions out by adding one a year till the govt stopped taking money out of standard pay. (they still take from OT) this still results in a tax check each year, but not as much.

  3. littlemama Says:
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    merch, as far as I know, she only has a car note. She doesn't have very good credit and got a bum rap when she financed with this "car dealership". Yeah, it would probably be best to pay that down first once she gets her deductions straightened out. She has no mortgage as she is living with her disabled mother.

    princess, she is claiming only 2, but with EIC and all, she gets a sizable return that should, IMO, be used for debt payoff or investing.

  4. creditcardfree Says:
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    I think you can apply for an advance on the EIC...or at least for it to be figured in for withholding purposes. Maybe she can check the IRS website or her human resources rep. The W4 has instructions on how to figure how much to claim. Our taxable income was around 45K and we had claimed 9 last year for withholding purposes and still received a $1200 refund. We have two kids. I hope that helps some.

    The Roth is a good idea unless she has debt to pay off.

  5. miclason Says:
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    hmmm...makes me kind of happy that here there's a table that says if your monthly income is between X and Y, deduct B....this is by law, you cannot deduct less, nor more...the company you work for is responsible for this, if they make a mistake and deduct more or less, then they get fined... how much you REALLY owe in the end is a different thing, though, taking into account the legal deductions (not many and, for salaried employees, only pension fund, what you already paid of the income tax, $800 for tuition and $800 for medical expenses)...if you provide professional services then you can also deduct the operative expenses...

  6. monkeymama Says:
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    I calculated her allowances assuming her new income (would lose EIC but she be eligible for full child tax credit).

    I say she could really take a good 4-5. (I assumed she was bumped to the 25% tax bracket, which is doubtful, but to be conservative). She can claim extra exemptions for the child tax credit, for one. Plus she has 2 exemptions and the standard deduction. That all adds up to around 5 allowances.

    Also, if you go to the IRS website, they have a withholding calculator. It is pretty accurate.

    I would personally tell her to change her allowances to 2. This would free up some cash, but would also continue some forced savings. Probably good middle ground for her. She can reevaluate next year again and inch it up if she feels comfortable.

  7. Credit Card Debt Says:
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    Well you should proud with your kids, they are already developing the sense for handling money. You have a very important role here because early financial education can spare them from a lot of trouble when they grow older. As you already know, most people complain about debts and credits...

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